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		<title>There is Not Equality in America</title>
		<link>http://bluestein.com/2008/02/there-is-not-equality-in-america/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Follow-Up on the Hillary/Obama Thing</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m trying to put some closure (well not really closure- can&#8217;t think of a better word) on this topic because the debate among friends and acquaintances has gotten heated. I respect anyone who does his/her best to vote for the right person. My friends are pretty much split down the middle with respect to Hillary/Obama. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to put some closure (well not really closure- can&#8217;t think of a better word) on this topic because the debate among friends and acquaintances has gotten heated. I respect anyone who does his/her best to vote for the right person. My friends are pretty much split down the middle with respect to Hillary/Obama. I truly respect them all and their decisions. I like that people are talking about this and debating about this instead of talking about Health Ledger all Brittney all the time.</p>
<p>Maybe the reason we often avoid politics as a culture is because often people take things personally and feelings get hurt. We have to get past that. </p>
<p>This has been a healthy debate. When I consider that just a few weeks ago I was complaining that nobody was twittering of substance, I am amazed. </p>
<p>People are taking this stuff seriously which is good. But we can&#8217;t take it personally or,I feel, we will shy away from political topics in the future. This allows other people to decide our fate. </p>
<p>So, I appreciate (I can&#8217;t say enjoy) the debate and hope it continues. But please keep in mind that anyone who informs themselves and is earnestly doing the best they can in a democratic process deserves respect for doing so.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if that makes sense. </p>
<p>Studs Terkel has often said, &#8220;They say you shouldn&#8217;t talk about politics or religion, but that means you can&#8217;t talk about life!&#8221; I agree with that</p>
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		<title>The Democrats as a Whole</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#8217;t been blogging much. There&#8217;s not much to say about the world except that the Democrats are not standing up to Bush. No excuses. We see through your grandstanding and your bullshit. The Democrats, as a whole, are not standing up to Bush. The hole is all that matters in this. That&#8217;s all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t been blogging much. There&#8217;s not much to say about  the world except that the Democrats are not standing up to Bush. No excuses. We see through your grandstanding and your bullshit. The Democrats, as a whole, are not standing up to Bush. The hole is all that matters in this. That&#8217;s all.</p>
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		<title>What&#8217;s the difference?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 02:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8230;between a Republican and a Democrat? Both allow corporations to fasciastly run the state: His achievement required political clout, and that, too, is on display. Soon after he formed Citigroup, Congress repealed a Depression-era law that prohibited goliaths like the one Weill had just put together anyway, combining commercial and investment banking, insurance and stock [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;between a Republican and a Democrat? Both allow corporations to fasciastly run the state:</p>
<blockquote><p>His achievement required political clout, and that, too, is on display. Soon after he formed Citigroup, Congress repealed a Depression-era law that prohibited goliaths like the one Weill had just put together anyway, combining commercial and investment banking, insurance and stock brokerage operations. A trophy from the victory &#8211; a pen that President Bill Clinton used to sign the repeal &#8211; hangs, framed, near the covers.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/07/15/business/gild.php">source</a></p>
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		<title>Edwards Drops the Gay Ball &#124; CorrenteWire</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 00:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Edwards Drops the Gay Ball &#124; CorrenteWire Letâ€™s just make it simple. John, hereâ€™s what you say: I support full and equal rights for all Americans, period. That includes the right to marry, regardless of orientation. Thatâ€™s not hard. As Pam notes, â€œmoral valuesâ€? handwringing and wishywashy â€œmy daughter is for it before I was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.correntewire.com/edwards_drops_the_gay_ball">Edwards Drops the Gay Ball | CorrenteWire</a><br />
Letâ€™s just make it simple. John, hereâ€™s what you say: I support full and equal rights for all Americans, period. That includes the right to marry, regardless of orientation. Thatâ€™s not hard. As Pam notes, â€œmoral valuesâ€? handwringing and wishywashy â€œmy daughter is for it before I was against itâ€? really wonâ€™t help you. Fact: gay-haters will never vote for you anyway. Fact: you can ride a huge wave of mobilized, loyal to the death gays and progressives (see: Dean) if you come out on the right side of this issue. Fact: every passing year there are more of us and fewer of them (homophobes). Only the right wing noise machine gives the impression that they represent some large portion of the population. Fact: even in states where anti-gay initiatives passed, progressive candidates beat out the gay hating Republicans who ran on gay bashing (see: VA)Itâ€™s likely Hillary and Obama will also take the â€œfaggots at the back of the busâ€? stance, so youâ€™re not going to win over any of their supporters by echoing them.</p>
<p>Be brave man, take a stand. You canâ€™t be the Progressive Candidate without getting on board the equality train all the way.</p>
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		<title>Cunt, Hillary Clinton, Says Torture Somtimes Okay</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Daily Politics Despite her apparent opposition to torture, Hillary Clinton said in a Daily News editorial board meeting yesterday that the practice is acceptable in some circumstances. Clinton got a rousing reception from the human rights community, and seemed to take an uncharacteristically bright-line stance, in a recent statement on the Senate floor during [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blogs.nydailynews.com/dailypolitics/archives/2006/10/clinton_on_tort.php">The Daily Politics</a><br />
Despite her apparent opposition to torture, Hillary Clinton said in a Daily News editorial board meeting yesterday that the practice is acceptable in some circumstances.</p>
<p>Clinton got a rousing reception from the human rights community, and seemed to take an uncharacteristically bright-line stance, in a recent statement on the Senate floor during the debate over torture.</p>
<p>&#8220;Have we fallen so low as to debate how much torture we are willing to stomach?&#8221; she asked at one point, and left anti-torture commentators, and even Clinton critics like Andrew Sullivan, with the impression that she&#8217;d emerged into a kind of un-Clintonian moral clarity and said no to torture.</p>
<p>But at yesterday&#8217;s Daily News editorial board meeting, it emerged that she&#8217;s not actually against torture in all instances, and that her dispute with McCain and Bush is largely procedural.</p>
<p>She was asked about the &#8220;ticking time bomb&#8221; scenario, in which you&#8217;ve captured the terrorist and don&#8217;t have time for a normal interrogation, and said that there is a place for what she called &#8220;severity,&#8221; in a conversation that included mentioning waterboarding, hypothermia, and other techniques commonly described as torture.</p>
<p>&#8220;I have said that those are very rare but if they occur there has to be some lawful authority for pursuing that,&#8221; she responded. &#8220;Again, I think the President has to take responsibilty. There has to be some check and balance, some reporting. I don&#8217;t mind if itâ€™s reporting in a top secret context. But that shouldnâ€™t be the tail that wags the dog, that should be the exception to the rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>Asked again about these methods, she said:</p>
<p>&#8220;In those instances where we have sufficient basis to believe that there is something imminent, yeah, but then weâ€™ve got to have a check and balance.&#8221;</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m not sure what Andrew Sullivan is so excited about. Torture is OK as long as the president approves it, as long as it&#8217;s an exception, and as long as it&#8217;s secretly reported to Congress. That doesn&#8217;t sound like a bright moral line to me.</p>
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